Re: partial "on-delete set null" constraint - Mailing list pgsql-general
From | Rafal Pietrak |
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Subject | Re: partial "on-delete set null" constraint |
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Msg-id | 54A7FA9E.4080605@ztk-rp.eu Whole thread Raw |
In response to | Re: partial "on-delete set null" constraint (Alban Hertroys <haramrae@gmail.com>) |
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Re: partial "on-delete set null" constraint
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List | pgsql-general |
W dniu 03.01.2015 o 14:11, Alban Hertroys pisze: [------------------] > You assumed a functional dependency between username and domain, while those fields actually describe independent entitiesthat don’t necessarily go together as you found out. Hence you need to normalise further. > > For example: > > CREATE TABLE maildomains (domain text primary key, profile text not null); > CREATE TABLE mailusers (username text primary key); > CREATE TABLE maildomainusers (username text references mailusers(username), domain text references maildomains(domain),primary key (username, domain)); > CREATE TABLE mailboxes (username text references mailusers(username) on update cascade on delete set null, domain textnot null references maildomains(domain) on update cascade, mailmessage text not null); I don't think that this tableset actually describe "an ordinary mailhub", which I'm coding. the "on delete set null" within mailboxes(username) act only on delete executed at mailusers; while the delete in question will be executed on maildomainusers. In particular "postmaster", as a single entity in mailusers table, will have as many entries in maildomainusers as there are domains in maildomains. But some domains may live without a postmaster user ... or a postmaster user may be replaced by an alias (another table, not presented for clearity). in such case, postmaster user will be dropped from maildomainusers, but will remain in mailusers table for other domains to reference. And delete of that postmaster user from maildomainuser will not fireback into the mailboxes to set null postmaster username from mails within that domain. This additional level of normalization solves me anything, I think. > >> Is there a way to implement that sort of referrential constraints (i.e.: just partially "set null on delete”)? > Not as a foreign key reference delete action. Pity. So I must look for some sort of trigger functions .... as I've already started, but nothing came up functioning as I'd need it to. > >> Would it violate SQL standard (signifficantly), if an "on delete set null" action just ignored all the FK columns thathave a "NOT NULL" constraint set? > Yes. You would end up with a non-unique reference to the foreign table, as the tuple (domain, NULL) could reference _any_mailuser in a domain: NULL means ‘unknown’, any username might match that. Yes. This is precisely the "semantics" I'm trying to put into the schema: after a username is "released" from service, all it's messages become "from unknown user".... unless thoroughly investigated :) > > As I understand it, this is precisely why Boyce-relationality forbids NULLs in primary keys, although I’m not so sure he’sright about that. > Having only slight theoretical background, I'd say: it could be "partially" the reason. I think, that "primary key" is just a syntactic shortcut for "unique AND not null" - so often used, that the shortcut is so appreciated. But "just unique", meaning unique just for values that "happen to be known" is also usefull, and thus it is allowed on equal bases.... only for other usage scenarios. -R
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