Re: RFC: Make new versions of pgjdbc Java8+ - Mailing list pgsql-jdbc

On 03/04/17 20:24, Daniel Migowski wrote:

Hallo,

 

in the name of performance, and that should be the main aspect for a database driver:

 

·         Don’t use lambdas! They are useful in a GUI where a few milliseconds are no problem, but shouldn’t IMHO be used on the server. Inner classes are slower to load but execute faster!

·         Don’t use streams when you can simply iterate over an array or a list. Unnecessary object creating just for the sake of readable code? Don’t do this in a database driver either!

·         Optionals: Why create objects for nothing? I’d rather have an if-check for null instead garbage on the heap.

    Thank you for your thoughts.

    I have heard these objections sometimes. I more or less agree with some of them. But don't want to fall into premature optimization: do you have some numbers to back these claims? If there would be performance drawbacks for using these, are they comparable to other performance hits in the driver?

    Regards,

    Álvaro

 

Just my thoughts.

 

Regards,

Daniel Migowski

 

Von: pgsql-jdbc-owner@postgresql.org [mailto:pgsql-jdbc-owner@postgresql.org] Im Auftrag von Álvaro Hernández Tortosa
Gesendet: Montag, 3. April 2017 13:36
An: Dave Cramer <pg@fastcrypt.com>
Cc: John R Pierce <pierce@hogranch.com>; List <pgsql-jdbc@postgresql.org>
Betreff: Re: [JDBC] RFC: Make new versions of pgjdbc Java8+

 

 

On 03/04/17 13:05, Dave Cramer wrote:

 

On 2 April 2017 at 19:03, Álvaro Hernández Tortosa <aht@8kdata.com> wrote:

On 03/04/17 00:56, John R Pierce wrote:

On 4/2/2017 3:40 PM, Álvaro Hernández Tortosa wrote:

- Java 6 EOLed 2/2013.
- Java 7 EOLed 4/2015.
- Java 8 was released 3 years ago, and brought significant improvements.
- Java 9 will be (may be) released this year.

isn't there a significant lag in version support by things like web services (j2ee, etc, as embedded in things like IBM WebSphere) ? j2ee 8 isn't even out yet.   Pretty sure a whole lot of that space is still stuck back in Java 6 land.

    Those are not related things. You can perfectly run J2EE 6 servers with Java 8 (and indeed, it is beneficial).


    Álvaro

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Alvaro,

 

 

So why do you want to write in java 8 ?

    Not a comprehensive or ordered list, but a few reasons:

- JDK comes with Base64 and cryptographic functions like PBKDF2 that are needed for SCRAM. In Java6 you either implement yourself or pull external dependencies.

- You can write conciser code (which improves significantly readability):
    * Lambas: anonymous classes. Callback-heavy code turns becomes readable.
    * Streams: unnecessary for loops and other goodies.
    * Optional: unnecessary ifs.
    * Since Java7: try-with-resources, 10_000 vs 10000 etc.

- Reading Javadoc doesn't hurt my eyes ^_^

- Time API, CompletableFuture.

- Default and static methods in interfaces!


    Álvaro

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