Re: New statistics for tuning WAL buffer size - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

On 2020/09/09 13:57, Masahiro Ikeda wrote:
> On 2020-09-07 16:19, Fujii Masao wrote:
>> On 2020/09/07 9:58, Masahiro Ikeda wrote:
>>> Thanks for the review and advice!
>>>
>>> On 2020-09-03 16:05, Fujii Masao wrote:
>>>> On 2020/09/02 18:56, Masahiro Ikeda wrote:
>>>>>> +/* ----------
>>>>>> + * Backend types
>>>>>> + * ----------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You seem to forget to add "*/" into the above comment.
>>>>>> This issue could cause the following compiler warning.
>>>>>> ../../src/include/pgstat.h:761:1: warning: '/*' within block comment [-Wcomment]
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the comment. I fixed.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the fix! But why are those comments necessary?
>>>
>>> Sorry about that. This comment is not necessary.
>>> I removed it.
>>>
>>>>> The pg_stat_walwriter is not security restricted now, so ordinary users can access it.
>>>>> It has the same security level as pg_stat_archiver. If you have any comments, please let me know.
>>>>
>>>> +       <structfield>dirty_writes</structfield> <type>bigint</type>
>>>>
>>>> I guess that the column name "dirty_writes" derived from
>>>> the DTrace probe name. Isn't this name confusing? We should
>>>> rename it to "wal_buffers_full" or something?
>>>
>>> I agree and rename it to "wal_buffers_full".
>>>
>>>> +/* ----------
>>>> + * PgStat_MsgWalWriter            Sent by the walwriter to update statistics.
>>>>
>>>> This comment seems not accurate because backends also send it.
>>>>
>>>> +/*
>>>> + * WAL writes statistics counter is updated in XLogWrite function
>>>> + */
>>>> +extern PgStat_MsgWalWriter WalWriterStats;
>>>>
>>>> This comment seems not right because the counter is not updated in XLogWrite().
>>>
>>> Right. I fixed it to "Sent by each backend and background workers to update WAL statistics."
>>> In the future, other statistics will be included so I remove the function's name.
>>>
>>>
>>>> +-- There will surely and maximum one record
>>>> +select count(*) = 1 as ok from pg_stat_walwriter;
>>>>
>>>> What about changing this comment to "There must be only one record"?
>>>
>>> Thanks, I fixed.
>>>
>>>> +                    WalWriterStats.m_xlog_dirty_writes++;
>>>>                      LWLockRelease(WALWriteLock);
>>>>
>>>> Since WalWriterStats.m_xlog_dirty_writes doesn't need to be protected
>>>> with WALWriteLock, isn't it better to increment that after releasing the lock?
>>>
>>> Thanks, I fixed.
>>>
>>>> +CREATE VIEW pg_stat_walwriter AS
>>>> +    SELECT
>>>> +        pg_stat_get_xlog_dirty_writes() AS dirty_writes,
>>>> +        pg_stat_get_walwriter_stat_reset_time() AS stats_reset;
>>>> +
>>>>  CREATE VIEW pg_stat_progress_vacuum AS
>>>>
>>>> In system_views.sql, the definition of pg_stat_walwriter should be
>>>> placed just after that of pg_stat_bgwriter not pg_stat_progress_analyze.
>>>
>>> OK, I fixed it.
>>>
>>>>      }
>>>> -
>>>>      /*
>>>>       * We found an existing collector stats file. Read it and put all the
>>>>
>>>> You seem to accidentally have removed the empty line here.
>>>
>>> Sorry about that. I fixed it.
>>>
>>>> -                 errhint("Target must be \"archiver\" or \"bgwriter\".")));
>>>> +                 errhint("Target must be \"archiver\" or \"bgwriter\" or
>>>> \"walwriter\".")));
>>>>
>>>> There are two "or" in the message, but the former should be replaced with ","?
>>>
>>> Thanks, I fixed.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2020-09-05 18:40, Magnus Hagander wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 5:42 AM Fujii Masao
>>>> <masao.fujii@oss.nttdata.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2020/09/04 11:50, tsunakawa.takay@fujitsu.com wrote:
>>>>>> From: Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@oss.nttdata.com>
>>>>>>>> I changed the view name from pg_stat_walwrites to
>>>>> pg_stat_walwriter.
>>>>>>>> I think it is better to match naming scheme with other views
>>>>> like
>>>>>>> pg_stat_bgwriter,
>>>>>>>> which is for bgwriter statistics but it has the statistics
>>>>> related to backend.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I prefer the view name pg_stat_walwriter for the consistency with
>>>>>>> other view names. But we also have pg_stat_wal_receiver. Which
>>>>>>> makes me think that maybe pg_stat_wal_writer is better for
>>>>>>> the consistency. Thought? IMO either of them works for me.
>>>>>>> I'd like to hear more opinons about this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think pg_stat_bgwriter is now a misnomer, because it contains
>>>>> the backends' activity.  Likewise, pg_stat_walwriter leads to
>>>>> misunderstanding because its information is not limited to WAL
>>>>> writer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How about simply pg_stat_wal?  In the future, we may want to
>>>>> include WAL reads in this view, e.g. reading undo logs in zheap.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sounds reasonable.
>>>>
>>>> +1.
>>>>
>>>> pg_stat_bgwriter has had the "wrong name" for quite some time now --
>>>> it became even more apparent when the checkpointer was split out to
>>>> it's own process, and that's not exactly a recent change. And it had
>>>> allocs in it from day one...
>>>>
>>>> I think naming it for what the data in it is ("wal") rather than which
>>>> process deals with it ("walwriter") is correct, unless the statistics
>>>> can be known to only *ever* affect one type of process. (And then
>>>> different processes can affect different columns in the view). As a
>>>> general rule -- and that's from what I can tell exactly what's being
>>>> proposed.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your comments. I agree with your opinions.
>>> I changed the view name to "pg_stat_wal".
>>>
>>>
>>> I fixed the code to send the WAL statistics from not only backend and walwriter
>>> but also checkpointer, walsender and autovacuum worker.
>>
>> Good point! Thanks for updating the patch!
>>
>>
>> @@ -604,6 +604,7 @@ heap_vacuum_rel(Relation onerel, VacuumParams *params,
>>                           onerel->rd_rel->relisshared,
>>                           Max(new_live_tuples, 0),
>>                           vacrelstats->new_dead_tuples);
>> +    pgstat_send_wal();
>>
>> I guess that you changed heap_vacuum_rel() as above so that autovacuum
>> workers can send WAL stats. But heap_vacuum_rel() can be called by
>> the processes (e.g., backends) other than autovacuum workers? Also
>> what happens if autovacuum workers just do ANALYZE only? In that case,
>> heap_vacuum_rel() may not be called.
>>
>> Currently autovacuum worker reports the stats at the exit via
>> pgstat_beshutdown_hook(). Unlike other processes, autovacuum worker
>> is not the process that basically keeps running during the service. It exits
>> after it does vacuum or analyze. So ISTM that it's not bad to report the stats
>> only at the exit, in autovacuum worker case. There is no need to add extra
>> code for WAL stats report by autovacuum worker. Thought?
> 
> Thanks, I understood. I removed this code.
> 
>>
>> @@ -1430,6 +1430,9 @@ WalSndWaitForWal(XLogRecPtr loc)
>>          else
>>              RecentFlushPtr = GetXLogReplayRecPtr(NULL);
>>  +        /* Send wal statistics */
>> +        pgstat_send_wal();
>>
>> AFAIR logical walsender uses three loops in WalSndLoop(), WalSndWriteData()
>> and WalSndWaitForWal(). But could you tell me why added pgstat_send_wal()
>> into WalSndWaitForWal()? I'd like to know why WalSndWaitForWal() is the best
>> for that purpose.
> 
> I checked what function calls XLogBackgroundFlush() which calls
> AdvanceXLInsertBuffer() to increment m_wal_buffers_full.
> 
> I found that WalSndWaitForWal() calls it, so I added it.

Ok. But XLogBackgroundFlush() calls AdvanceXLInsertBuffer() wit the second argument opportunistic=true, so in this case
WALwrite by wal_buffers full seems to never happen. Right? If this understanding is right, WalSndWaitForWal() doesn't
needto call pgstat_send_wal(). Probably also walwriter doesn't need to do that.
 

The logical rep walsender can generate WAL and call AdvanceXLInsertBuffer() when it executes the replication commands
likeCREATE_REPLICATION_SLOT. But this case is already covered by pgstat_report_activity()->pgstat_send_wal() called in
PostgresMain(),with your patch. So no more calls to pgstat_send_wal() seems necessary for logical rep walsender. 

Regards,

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Fujii Masao
Advanced Computing Technology Center
Research and Development Headquarters
NTT DATA CORPORATION