Re: What's the point of allow_system_table_mods? - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Tom Lane
Subject Re: What's the point of allow_system_table_mods?
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Msg-id 12810.1557514818@sss.pgh.pa.us
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In response to Re: What's the point of allow_system_table_mods?  (Andrew Gierth <andrew@tao11.riddles.org.uk>)
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Andrew Gierth <andrew@tao11.riddles.org.uk> writes:
> "Andres" == Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de> writes:
>  Andres> Why is it so much more dangerous? I've seen plenty of corrupted
>  Andres> clusters due to people doing DML against the catalogs. I'm OK
>  Andres> with adding separate GUCs for both, if we want to do that, but
>  Andres> I do think we shouldn't allow updating the catalogs wthout
>  Andres> having having the superuser explicitly opt into that.

> Be aware that a nonzero number of extensions (postgis especially) do
> catalog DML in their install or update scripts.

I believe we've done that in some contrib update scripts, as well.

> While you might well
> think they shouldn't do that, in practice there is usually no viable
> alternative.

In principle, if the thing is SUSET, we could have such extension scripts
set it temporarily.  But it would be a compatibility hazard -- a script
with such a SET command in it would fail in older branches.

What exactly is the motivation for changing this now, after 20 years?

            regards, tom lane



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