Re: I am being interviewed by OReilly - Mailing list pgsql-hackers
From | Christopher Browne |
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Subject | Re: I am being interviewed by OReilly |
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Msg-id | 20020711025839.10D723B3FE@cbbrowne.com Whole thread Raw |
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Re: I am being interviewed by OReilly
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pgman@candle.pha.pa.us (Bruce Momjian) wrote: > Lamar Owen wrote: >> If you doubt that fact, you need to read the archives for awhile to >> get a sense of how this project is organized. If the steering >> committee (the core six) decide against something, then that >> something _does_not_happen_. End of story. This is not a >> democracy. It is an oligarchy. Marc is one of the six oligarchs, >> so _Deal_with_it_. Bruce, another of the core six, has to an >> extent agreed with some of the difficulty of the current name. But >> how have the rest weighed in? Up until the last portions of this >> thread I might have agreed with you to an extent. But after I >> weighed the difficulty of actually pulling off a name change, I am >> dead set against it. It's too much effort for too little gain. > > I don't think you can just "shut down" a discussion about a name > change. Some good things are coming out of is, such as adding "also > called 'postgres'" to some of our documentation, and properly > mapping postgres.org/com to postgresql.org. > > I think there is room for an "also called postgres" push among our > users and for marketing. Oracle is changing the name of their > server all the time to position it for marketing so having a > secondary name doesn't hurt. Our _official_ name is PostgreSQL. > > (I personally voted for 'tigres' at the time we chose PostgreSQL.) Hear, hear! This is a _wonderful_ thing. Note that Netscape Navigator has been spelled many ways over the years, "but is always pronounced `Mozilla.'" While 'tigres' sounds quite nice, and strikes me as an attractive option were things open to a _completely_ new name, it hasn't the merit "postgres" has of: a) Being a historical name, and b) Being highly similar to the current name. There's NOTHING wrong with having a "legal name" as well as an "operating as" name; companies do that _all the time_. And if there are 20 places that say "It's officially spelled PostgreSQL, but you can _pronounce_ that 'p\O\st-"gres', and here's the MP3 of Bruce saying it," that can cope with the situation nicely. I have no problem with the "PostgreSQL" _spelling_, but how it sounds _is_ important, and I don't think it's reasonable to expect to do the "Cliff Richard" thing where the famous British pop star coined a name specifically so that he could regularly remind interviewers "No, no, not `Cliff Richards,' it's `Cliff Richard.' No 's' on the end!" Consider the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy series. The first three books are _tremendously_ more popular than the later sequels, and I believe that is the result of them having been first 'honed' by being presented as radio plays. They actually _sound_ better than they "read." In contrast, later volumes like _So Long and Thanks for All the Fish_ never were on radio, and read _very_ differently, unfortunately not as nicely. -- (reverse (concatenate 'string "moc.enworbbc@" "enworbbc")) http://cbbrowne.com/info/nonrdbms.html "One of my most often repeated quips was the one I made when former Presidents Carter, Ford and Nixon stood by each other at a White House event. 'There they are,' I said. 'See no evil, hear no evil, and ... evil.'" -- Bob Dole, 1983
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