Postgresql -- initial impressions and comments - Mailing list pgsql-general

Hi:

I am a long time MySQL/Innodb user. I just installed
postgres 7.3 on my linux box and thought I'd post
some comments:

1)
Running postgres as non-root is understandable but
should not be _mandated_ (for totally private
networks,
it's overkill). Trust the user...

2)
It's not clear what md5 password auth does.

(a) Is the password stored as md5 in the database
itself, or only md5's on the wire (from client to
server) and then thereafter stored as plain text in
the db itself ?

(b) If the client is responsible for the md5
encryption,
then does the JDBC driver do this for us automatically
?

(c) Is there a md5 function in the database ?

The docs don't really answer these points at all -
especially (b) and (c).

3) The documentation needs to be radically improved.
The mysql docs are much more comprehensive. Postgres
wins hands down in the database internals
documentation
(mysql doesn't have any) but loses in the userland
documentation.

4) The auto-increment ("serial") fields are very
badly documented.

Normally, I want to say something like:

  INSERT into foo values (null, 'a', 'b',...)

where the first field is defined as serial. However
I can't send null to that field and expect it to be
auto incremented - I have to either list out my
fields in the statment (and omit the serial field):

  INSERT into foo
   (field_a, field_b,...) values  ('a', 'b', ...)

which is a drag or I have to use a funky nextval
command. Why can't postgres simply accept null for
the serial field and simply fill in the next value ?
This would make it easier to use (don't have to type
in the field list) and more consistent (with mysql and
perhaps other databases).

5) There is no way to grant permissions on all tables
within a database to some user. You have to grant
permissions on each table one-by-one. What I want
to do (and mysql allows this) is something like:

GRANT ALL on foodb.* to user_bar;

where 'foodb' is the name of a database. This sucks.

6) Well, docs again: there are no examples or
techniques for importing/exporting comma or tab
delimited files from/to tables ? Is this possible but
I just didn't find it ?

Well, having played with postgres for the first time,
these were the initial (after 4-5 hours) points that
came up. But overall, it looks and feels like a solid
product. The hot dump is a nice feature - I can
dump the db without shutting it down - innodb in
contrast charges $$ for this feature.

Best regards,

javadesigner@yahoo.com

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