[long] Picking A Target Market (was Re: A cohesive sales message) - Mailing list pgsql-advocacy
From | Alex Satrapa |
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Subject | [long] Picking A Target Market (was Re: A cohesive sales message) |
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Msg-id | 4001DAE6.4050801@lintelsys.com.au Whole thread Raw |
In response to | Re: A cohesive sales message (Rob Napier <rob@trafficofficemanager.com>) |
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Re: [long] Picking A Target Market (was Re: A
Re: [long] Picking A Target Market (was Re: A cohesive sales message) |
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Rob Napier wrote: > But it soaked up a > few hours this week that could have been more usefully devoted to working on > the task that I had undertaken to do. Welcome to the world of unmoderated mailing lists! A number of options to help reduce the time we have to spend reading the list: 1) We could start a new list (eg: pgsql-marketing) which is moderated. However, you have to find someone to moderate the list. 2) People could learn to change subject lines and include stuff like "[OT]" or "[offtopic]" to indicate that a message is offtopic for the thread or the list. 3) People could learn proper list ettiquette. ie: put answers right after a question, don't quote portions of messages that aren't relevant, don't quote the whole thread of a discussion, only the message you're replying to, etc. It's really annoying me that about 30% of the posts to this list involve someone posting a "me too!" response to a two-page message, where they quote the entire two-page message and stick their one-line contribution at the bottom! Then life would be easier for people who are trying to follow one particular thread. That's not just you, but at least me, and I suspect 80% of the list readers. Once a thread becomes "old" or "stale" (in my judgement), I don't bother reading followups. Saves a lot of time, but then some donkey goes and replies on-topic in an off-topic branch... D'Oh! > ... you have devoted so > much time to debating various topics this week while there has been > virtually no response to my specific questions. Does this mean that no one > has the answers? I expected to be inundated with information and ideas. Lessons to learn from Usenet: "Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea -- massive, difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind- boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." Gene Spafford, 1992. The trick is learning that the crap will come, it will be in high volume, but somewhere in there will be something of value. > I see no point in trying to second guess the target market, product profile, > features, advantages, benefits, etc. At present, the target market for PostgreSQL could probably be best described as: 1) People who have chosen to use PostgreSQL for various reasons (these people are the targets for "further education" such as books or courses or certification) 2) People who are using that other database. These people would need to be targetted based on performance and ease-of-use. They aren't going to switch unless we can prove that switching to PostgreSQL is less inconvenient than sticking with that other database (I believe the hook term is "Cognitive Dissonance") 3) People who are looking to set up a dynamic website and don't even know what a database is, much less that they need one in order to avoid reinventing the wheel (and making all the old mistakes) 4) Conference attendees - but there are so many different conferences, you'd really have to tailor the message to the conference. A standard PostgreSQL CD would need to have documentation and sample databases (along with some CGIs to interact with the database) so the potential user could see how PostgreSQL could work for them. (4) is where we get into all that marketspeek such as "branding" and "awareness" - getting the Label out there everywhere so that by the time the word "database" has flitted across some poor victim's brain, the association has already been made with "PostgreSQL" or at least "Elephant". Josh Berkus pointed out that we'd need to have two distinct sets of material: A) the geek-oriented buzzword-free version that addresses technical issues (eg: foreign keys, outer joins) with examples that illustrate how the technology works and how it saves you heaps of time (and keeps your data clean). B) the suit-oriented buzzword-compliant motherhood statements accompanied with check-box items comparing PostgreSQL to other DBMSes such as MySQL and Oracle. Robert Bernier's CD may be of interest as part of a CD-kiosk for a conference. Even if some suit just gets a copy of "one of each" from whatever kiosk is set up, PostgreSQL will end up in some techies hands eventually ("hey guys, I just got back from my all-expenses paid holi... business trip, and here's a grab bag of stuff you might be interested in"). > Then I could spend time writing marketing > material and submit it for consideration and receive hundreds of emails > (perhaps thousands if this last week is anything to go by) telling me where > I missed the mark. What you could do is ask the list if someone is willing to collect and moderate the responses on your behalf, and post summaries. Perhaps someone out there is willing to help the marketing effort to this extent. > That is not how things are done in marketing: The agency gets a brief. But *that* is not how things are done on Internet mailing lists - in most cases, people subscribe to mailing lists to share angst, not to get things done ;) If we're going to run a "Switch" campaign, we need to have testimonials (and not manufactured ones like the Ellen Feiss one, either ;), feature comparisons and a whole lot of effort into "Migration HOWTOs". If we're going to run a "further education" campaign, we need to have references such as: - Mr. Momjian's PostgreSQL book, - decent database design books (one of which I'm aiming to obtain for myself and review by the end of this month), - some books on user-interface design. - courses in database design - courses in PostgreSQL management/maintenance - certification (for user, DBA, sysadmin) To support a "you need a DB" campaign, there would have to be some way of triggering the association of "manipulating data" -> "DBMS" -> "PostgreSQL". A "branding" campaign would raise market awareness if nothing else. regards Alex Satrapa
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