Re: Error on failed COMMIT - Mailing list pgsql-hackers
From | Robert Haas |
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Subject | Re: Error on failed COMMIT |
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Msg-id | CA+TgmoYfz_CtkEgP3imp309f7PG9cNFp0ZwJ42fHrLAKSP3OQQ@mail.gmail.com Whole thread Raw |
In response to | Re: Error on failed COMMIT (Shay Rojansky <roji@roji.org>) |
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Re: Error on failed COMMIT
Re: Error on failed COMMIT Re: Error on failed COMMIT Re: Error on failed COMMIT |
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On Sun, Feb 23, 2020 at 11:11 AM Shay Rojansky <roji@roji.org> wrote: > I'd like to second Dave on this, from the .NET perspective - actual client access is done via standard drivers in almostall cases, and these drivers generally adhere to database API abstractions (JDBC for Java, ADO.NET for .NET, and soon). AFAIK, in almost all such abstractions, commit can either complete (implying success) or throw an exception - thereis no third way to return a status code. It's true that a driver may expose NOTICE/WARNING messages via some other channel(Npgsql emits .NET events for these), but this is a separate message "channel" that is disconnected API-wise fromthe commit; this makes the mechanism very "undiscoverable". I'm still befuddled here. First, to repeat what I said before, the COMMIT only returns a ROLLBACK command tag if there's been a previous ERROR. So, if you haven't ignored the prior ERROR, you should be fine. Second, there's nothing to keep the driver itself from translating ROLLBACK into an exception, if that's more convenient for some particular driver. Let's go back to Bernhard's example upthred: composeTransaction() { Connection con = getConnection(); // implicitly "begin" try { insertFrameworkLevelState(con); insertApplicationLevelState(con); con.commit(); publishNewState(); } catch (Throwable ex) { con.rollback(); } } If insertFrameworkLevelState() or insertApplicationLevelState() perform database operations that fail, then an exception should be thrown and we should end up at con.rollback(), unless there is an internal catch block inside those functions that swallows the exception, or unless the JDBC driver ignores the error from the server. If those things succeed, then COMMIT could still fail with an ERROR but it shouldn't return ROLLBACK. But, for extra security, con.commit() could be made to throw an exception if the command tag returned by COMMIT is not COMMIT. It sounds like Dave doesn't want to do that, but it would solve this problem without requiring a server behavior change. Actually, an even better idea might be to make the driver error out when the transaction is known to be in a failed state when you enter con.commit(). The server does return an indication after each command as to whether the session is in a transaction and whether that transaction is in a failed state. That's how the %x escape sequence just added to the psql prompt works. So, suppose the JDBC driver tracked that state like libpq does. insertFrameworkLevelState() or insertApplicationLevelState() throws an exception, which is internally swallowed. Then you reach con.commit(), and it says, nope, can't do that, we're in a failed state, and so an exception is thrown. Then when we reach con.rollback() we're still inside a transaction, it gets rolled back, and everything works just as expected. Or, alternatively, the JDBC driver could keep track of the fact that it had thrown an exception ITSELF, without paying any attention to what the server told it, and if it saw con.commit() after raising an exception, it could raise another exception (or re-raise the same one). That would also fix it. > Asking drivers to do this at the client have the exact same breakage impact as the server change, since the user-visiblebehavior changes in the same way (the change is just shifted from server to driver). What's worse is that everydriver now has to reimplement the same new logic, and we'd most probably end up with some drivers doing it in some languages,and others not doing it in others (so behavioral differences). Well, it seems quite possible that there are drivers and applications that don't have this issue; I've never had a problem with this behavior, and I've been using PostgreSQL for something like two decades, and I believe that the sketch above could be used to get the desired behavior in current releases of PostgreSQL with no server code change. If we did change the server behavior, it seems unlikely that every driver would adjust their behavior to the new server behavior all at once and that they would all get it right while also all preserving backward compatibility with current releases in case a newer driver is used with an older server. I don't think that's likely. What would probably happen is that many drivers would ignore the change, leaving applications to cope with the differences between server versions, and some would change the driver behavior categorically, breaking compatibility with older server versions, and some would make mistakes in implementing support for the new behavior. And maybe we would also find that the new behavior isn't ideal for everybody any more than the current behavior is ideal for everybody. I am really struggling to see why this is anything but a bug in the JDBC driver. The problem is that the application doesn't know that the transaction has failed, but the server has returned not one, not two, but three indications of failure. First, it returned an error, which I guess the JDBC driver turns into an exception - but it does not, before throwing that exception, remember that the current transaction is failed. Second, it will thereafter report that the transaction is in a failed state, both immediately after the error and upon every subsequent operation that does not get the server out of the transaction. It sounds like the JDBC driver ignores this information. Third, the attempt at COMMIT will return a ROLLBACK command tag, which Dave said that the driver does ignore. That's a lot of stuff that the driver could do but isn't doing. So what this boils down to, from my perspective, is not that the driver behavior in the face of errors can't be made correct with the existing semantics, but that the driver would find it more convenient if PostgreSQL reported those errors in a somewhat different way. I think that's a fair criticism, but I don't think it's a sufficient reason to change the behavior. -- Robert Haas EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company
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