Re: [WIP] Double-write with Fast Checksums - Mailing list pgsql-hackers
From | Aidan Van Dyk |
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Subject | Re: [WIP] Double-write with Fast Checksums |
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Msg-id | CAC_2qU95EtBBo0GeGfd9rimUyjs3Ot1H5X4NP_=JWR1zZWrF0w@mail.gmail.com Whole thread Raw |
In response to | Re: [WIP] Double-write with Fast Checksums (Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>) |
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Re: [WIP] Double-write with Fast Checksums
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List | pgsql-hackers |
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 7:13 AM, Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com> wrote: > At the moment, double-writes are done in one batch, fsyncing the > double-write area first and the data files immediately after that. That's > probably beneficial if you have a BBU, and/or a fairly large shared_buffers > setting, so that pages don't get swapped between OS and PostgreSQL cache too > much. But when those assumptions don't hold, it would be interesting to > treat the double-write buffers more like a 2nd WAL for full-page images. > Whenever a dirty page is evicted from shared_buffers, write it to the > double-write area, but don't fsync it or write it back to the data file yet. > Instead, let it sit in the double-write area, and grow the double-write > file(s) as necessary, until the next checkpoint comes along. Ok, but for correctness, you need to *fsync* the double-write buffer (WAL) before you can issue the write on the normal datafile at all. All the double write can do is move the FPW from the WAL stream (done at commit time) to some other "double buffer space" (which can be done at write time). It still has to fsync the "write-ahead" part of the double write before it can write any of the "normal" part, or you leave the the torn-page possibility. And you still need to keep all the "write-ahead" part of the double-write around until all the "normal" writes have been fsynced (checkpoint time) so you can redo them all on crash recovery. So, I think that the work in double-writes has merit, but if it's done correctly, it isn't this "magic bullet" that suddenly gives us atomic, durable writes for free. It has major advantages (including, but not limited too) 1) Moving the FPW out of normal WAL/commit processing 2) Allowing fine control of (possibly seperate) FPW locations on a per tablespace/relation basis It does this by moving the FPW/IO penalty from the commit time of a backend dirtying the buffer first, to the eviction time of a backend evicting a dirty buffer. And if you're lucky enough that the background writer is the only one writing dirty buffers, you'll see lots of improvements in your performance (equivilent of running with current FPW off). But I have a feeling that many of us see backends having to write dirty buffers often enough too that the reduction in commit/WAL latency will be offset (hopefully not as much) by increased query processing time as backends double-write dirty buffers. a. -- Aidan Van Dyk Create like a god, aidan@highrise.ca command like a king, http://www.highrise.ca/ work like a slave.
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