Re: About these IPC parameters - Mailing list pgsql-hackers
From | The Hermit Hacker |
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Subject | Re: About these IPC parameters |
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Msg-id | Pine.BSF.4.21.0007201241220.1745-100000@thelab.hub.org Whole thread Raw |
In response to | Re: About these IPC parameters (Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>) |
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Re: About these IPC parameters
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List | pgsql-hackers |
On Thu, 20 Jul 2000, Tom Lane wrote: > Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net> writes: > > We use three shared-memory segments: One is for the spin locks and is of > > negligible size (144 bytes currently). The other two I don't know, but one > > of them seems to be sized about 550kB + -B * BLCKSZ > > The shmem sizes depend on both -B and -N, but the dependence on -B is > much stronger. Obviously there's 8K per -B for the buffer itself, > and there's also some allowance for hashtable entries for the buffer > indexing tables. The -N number drives the size of the PROC table plus > some hashtables --- but a PROC entry isn't very big. > > I believe there's no really fundamental reason why we use three shmem > segments and not just one. I've toyed with the idea of trying to > combine them, but not done anything about it yet... > > > My kernel has the following interesting-looking shared memory settings: > > FWIW, HPUX does not have SHMALL --- and since HPUX began life as SysV > I would imagine a lot of other SysV derivatives don't either. The > relevant parameters here seem to be > > SEMA Enable Sys V Semaphores > SEMAEM Max Value for Adjust on Exit Semaphores > SEMMAP Max Number of Semaphore Map Entries > SEMMNI Number of Semaphore Identifiers > SEMMNS Max Number of Semaphores > SEMMNU Number of Semaphore Undo Structures > SEMUME Semaphore Undo Entries per Process > SEMVMX Semaphore Maximum Value > SHMEM Enable Sys V Shared Memory > SHMMAX Max Shared Mem Segment (bytes) > SHMMNI Number of Shared Memory Identifiers > SHMSEG Shared Memory Segments per Process > > Other than shooting yourself in the foot by having SEMA or SHMEM be > 0 (OFF), it looks like the parameters that could need raising on this > platform would be SEMMAP, SEMMNI, SEMMNS, SHMMAX. > > > Is there any noteworthy relevance of some of the other parameters? I see > > FAQ_BSDI talks about SEMUME and SEMMNU. > > AFAIK we don't use semaphore undo, so those are red herrings. First off, this might be something we need a whole seperate FAQ for, since I think the concepts are pretty much common across the various OSs? for instance, under FreeBSD, I have it set right now as: ==== options SYSVSHM options SHMMAXPGS=4096 options SHMSEG=256 options SYSVSEM options SEMMNI=256 options SEMMNS=512 options SEMMNU=256 options SEMMAP=256 options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues ==== To run three postmasters, one with '-B 256 -N 128', and the other two just with '-N 16' ... the thing that I just don't get is how the settings ni my kernel apply, and trying to find any info on taht is like pulling teeth :( For instance, I'm allowing for up to 160 clients to connect, max .. does that make for one semaphore identifier per client, so I need SEMMNI >= 160? Or ... ? I grab'd this off a Sun site dealing with Solaris, but it might also be of aid: Name Default Max Brief Description ------ ------- -------------- ------------------------------------- semmap 10 2147483647 Number of entries in semaphore map semmni 10 65535 Number of semaphore sets (identifiers) semmns 60 2147483647 Number of semaphores in the system 65535 (usage) semmnu 30 2147483647 Number of "undo" structures in the system semmsl 25 2147483647 Max number of semaphores, per semaphore id 65535 (usage) semopm 10 2147483647 Max number of operations, per semaphore call semume 10 2147483647 Max number of "undo" entries, per process semusz 96 *see below* Size in bytes of "undo" structure semvmx 32767 2147483647 Semaphore maximum value 65535 (usage) semaem 16384 2147483647 Adjust on exit maximum value 32767 (usage) Detailed Descriptions --------------------- semmap Defines the size of the semaphore resource map; each block of available, contiguous semaphores requires one entry in thismap. This is the pool from which semget(2) acquires semaphore sets. When a semaphore set is removed (deleted), if the block of semaphores to be freed is adjacent to a block of semaphores alreadyin the resource map, the semaphores in the set being removed are added to the existing map entry; no new map entryis required. If the semaphores in the removed set are not adjacent to those in an existing map entry, then a new mapentry is required to track these semaphores; if there are no more map entries available, the system has to discard anentry, 'permanently' losing a block of semaphores (permanence is relative; a reboot fixes the problem). If this shouldoccur, a WARNING will be generated, the text of which will be something like "rmallocmap: rmap overflow, lost ...". The end result is that a user could later get ENOSPC errors from semget(2) even though it doesn't look like all thesemaphores are allocated. semmni Defines the number of semaphore sets (identifiers), system wide. Every semaphore set in the system has a unique indentifierand control structure. The system pre-allocates kernel memory for semmni control structures; each control structureis 84 bytes. If no more identifiers are available, semget(2) returns ENOSPC. Attempting to set semmni to a value greater than 65535 will result in generation of a WARNING, and the value will be setto 65535. semmns Defines the number of semaphores in the system; 16 bytes of kernel memory is pre-allocated for each semaphores. If thereis not a large enough block of contiguous semaphores in the resource map (see semmap) to satisfy the request, semget(2)returns ENOSPC. Fragmentation of the semaphore map will result in ENOSPC errors, even though there may appear to be ample free semaphores. Despite attempts by the system to merge free sets (see semmap), the size of the clusters of free semaphores generallydecreases over time. For this reason, semmns frequently must be set higher than the actual number of semaphoresrequired. semmnu Defines the number of semaphore undo structures in the system. semusz (see below) bytes of kernel memory are pre-allocatedfor each undo structure; one undo structure is required for every process for which undo information must berecorded. semop() will return ENOSPC if it is requested to record undo information and there are no undo structures available. semmsl Limits the number of semaphores that can be created for a single semaphore id. If semget(2) returns EINVAL, this limit shouldbe increased. This parameter is only used to validate the argument passed to semget(2). Logically, it should be lessthan or equal to semmns (see above). Setting semmsl too high might allow a few identifiers to hog all the semaphoresin the system. semopm Limits the number of operations that are allowed in a single semop(2) call. If semop(2) returns E2BIG, this limit shouldbe increased. This parameter is only used to validate the argument passed to semop(2). semume Limits the number of undo records that can exist for a process. If semop(2) returns EINVAL, this limit should be increased. In addition to its use in validating arguments to semop(2), this parameter is used to calculate the value of semusz(see below). semusz Defines the size of the semaphore undo structure. Any attempt to modify this parameter directly will be ignored; semuszis always calculated based upon the value of semume (see above); semusz = 8 * (semume + 2). semvmx Limits the maximum value of a semaphore. Due to the interaction with undo structures and semaem (see below), this tuneableshould not be increased beyond its default value of 32767, unless you can guarantee that SEM_UNDO is never and willnever be used. It can be safely reduced, but doing so provides no savings. semaem Limits the maximum value of an adjust-on-exit undo element. No system resources are allocated based on this value.
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