Thread: PostgreSQL Naming Rules
Hi,
Am I allowed to name a table field < Änderung_1 >. The Ä is a german letter contained within the UTF8 character set.
yours,
Rob
On 28 October 2011 12:49, Robert Buckley <robertdbuckley@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi,according to this article http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=409471, the naming of tables, and fields is restricted to 63 characters and must start with an underscore or letter. Nothing is however said about in which character set.Am I allowed to name a table field < Änderung_1 >. The Ä is a german letter contained within the UTF8 character set.yours,Rob
The simplest answer is: just check it.
however this works for me:
create table "Änderung_1" (i integer);
select * from "Änderung_1";
regards
Szymon
Robert Buckley, 28.10.2011 12:49: > according to this article > http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=409471, the naming of > tables, and fields is restricted to 63 characters and must start with > an underscore or letter. Nothing is however said about in which > character set. > > Am I allowed to name a table field < Änderung_1 >. The Ä is a german > letter contained within the UTF8 character set. It does work, but I have had some tools (JDBC based) that choked on those tables. And I had some troubles running pg_dump/pg_restorewith those tables. But as I did that merely out of curiosity, I didn't bother to find a way on how to dealwith them. Thomas
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Von: Robert Buckley <robertdbuckley@yahoo.com>
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Von: Szymon Guz <mabewlun@gmail.com>
An: Robert Buckley <robertdbuckley@yahoo.com>
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The simplest answer is: just check it.
Von: Robert Buckley <robertdbuckley@yahoo.com>
An: Szymon Guz <mabewlun@gmail.com>
Gesendet: 13:23 Freitag, 28.Oktober 2011
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Thanks,
I tried importing a table and I got some errors regarding Character sets. The error suggested I should use Latin1 instead of UTF8. I tried both, but I still keep getting the error. I looked at the field names and found german letters in the names hence the question here in the forum.
So in principle it is not a field name problem, and I have to look elsewhere.
thanks,
rob
Von: Szymon Guz <mabewlun@gmail.com>
An: Robert Buckley <robertdbuckley@yahoo.com>
Cc: "pgsql-general@postgresql.org" <pgsql-general@postgresql.org>
Gesendet: 13:15 Freitag, 28.Oktober 2011
Betreff: Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL Naming Rules
On 28 October 2011 12:49, Robert Buckley <robertdbuckley@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi,according to this article http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=409471, the naming of tables, and fields is restricted to 63 characters and must start with an underscore or letter. Nothing is however said about in which character set.Am I allowed to name a table field < Änderung_1 >. The Ä is a german letter contained within the UTF8 character set.yours,Rob
The simplest answer is: just check it.
however this works for me:
create table "Änderung_1" (i integer);
select * from "Änderung_1";
regards
Szymon
Robert Buckley wrote: > according to this article http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=409471, the naming of > tables, and fields is restricted to 63 characters and must start with an underscore or letter. Nothing > is however said about in which character set. > > Am I allowed to name a table field < Änderung_1 >. The Ä is a german letter contained within the UTF8 > character set. You can, but it's a really bad idea to have non-ASCII names. Yours, Laurenz Albe
On Friday, October 28, 2011 3:49:58 am Robert Buckley wrote: > Hi, > according to this > article http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=409471, the naming > of tables, and fields is restricted to 63 characters and must start with > an underscore or letter. Nothing is however said about in which character > set. > > Am I allowed to name a table field < Änderung_1 >. The Ä is a german letter > contained within the UTF8 character set. http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.1/interactive/sql-syntax-lexical.html#SQL- SYNTAX-IDENTIFIERS "SQL identifiers and key words must begin with a letter (a-z, but also letters with diacritical marks and non-Latin letters) or an underscore (_). Subsequent characters in an identifier or key word can be letters, underscores, digits (0-9), or dollar signs ($). Note that dollar signs are not allowed in identifiers according to the letter of the SQL standard, so their use might render applications less portable. The SQL standard will not define a key word that contains digits or starts or ends with an underscore, so identifiers of this form are safe against possible conflict with future extensions of the standard. " > > yours, > > > Rob -- Adrian Klaver adrian.klaver@gmail.com
On 10/28/2011 06:49 PM, Robert Buckley wrote: > according to this article > http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=409471, the naming of > tables, and fields is restricted to 63 characters and must start with an > underscore or letter. Nothing is however said about in which character set. > > Am I allowed to name a table field < Änderung_1 >. The Ä is a german > letter contained within the UTF8 character set. It'll work, but sadly you will at some point run into badly written tools that mangle anything but 7-bit-ascii text. psql on the Windows command line needs some extra love to behave correctly; you may have to issue a chcp command to change the console to unicode before starting psql if you're working with data that cannot be represented in the charset your version of Windows uses. That won't be an issue for umlauts etc, but if you wanted (say) hebrew table names on a German windows you'd probably have to change the codepage. Other than that, PostgreSQL and its tools should be fine. You are likely to run into badly written tools elsewhere that mangle anything that isn't 7-bit ascii, though, so be careful. In general, if PostgreSQL doesn't like a table identifier you can "double quote" it to get it to accept it. Table identifiers in double-quotes also have their case preserved rather than automatically being lower-cased like unquoted identifiers. Because the downcasing rules for anything except 7-bit ascii are less than clear, I'd recommend double-quoting all identifiers that use characters outside that range. -- Craig Ringer