Thread: .psqlrc output for \pset commands
In my .psqlrc I have: \pset format wrapped and this outputs this on psql startup: $ psql test --> Output format is wrapped.psql (8.4devel)Type "help" for help. Is this desirable? \set QUIET at the top of .psqlrc fixes it, but I am wondering if we should be automatically doing quiet while .psqlrc is processed. -- Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> http://momjian.us EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. +
"Bruce Momjian" <bruce@momjian.us> writes: > In my .psqlrc I have: > > \pset format wrapped > > and this outputs this on psql startup: > > $ psql test > --> Output format is wrapped. > psql (8.4devel) > Type "help" for help. > > Is this desirable? \set QUIET at the top of .psqlrc fixes it, but I am > wondering if we should be automatically doing quiet while .psqlrc is > processed. I was wondering about this myself, but I'm still not used to the new banner. It seems kind of... curt. Perhaps it should just be a single line instead of two lines both around 20 characters... Anyways the thing that struck me as odd was the messages appearing *before* the header. It seems to me the header should print followed by .psqlrc output followed by normal output. -- Gregory Stark EnterpriseDB http://www.enterprisedb.com Ask me about EnterpriseDB's Slony Replication support!
Gregory Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com> writes: > Anyways the thing that struck me as odd was the messages appearing *before* > the header. It seems to me the header should print followed by .psqlrc output > followed by normal output. I think the reason for the current behavior is to allow \set QUIET in .psqlrc to affect the printing of the banner. Are we prepared to give that up? regards, tom lane
Tom Lane wrote: > I think the reason for the current behavior is to allow \set QUIET in > .psqlrc to affect the printing of the banner. Are we prepared to > give that up? I'm using that behavior!
On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 19:24 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Is this desirable? \set QUIET at the top of .psqlrc fixes it, but I am > wondering if we should be automatically doing quiet while .psqlrc is > processed. There is some precedent for not emitting the messages: most Unix tools don't echo the results of applying their .rc files at startup. Personally, I run psql frequently but very rarely modify my .psqlrc, so seeing "timing is on" and similar messages echoed to the screen is almost always noise. -Neil
Neil Conway wrote: > On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 19:24 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > Is this desirable? \set QUIET at the top of .psqlrc fixes it, but I am > > wondering if we should be automatically doing quiet while .psqlrc is > > processed. > > There is some precedent for not emitting the messages: most Unix tools > don't echo the results of applying their .rc files at startup. > Personally, I run psql frequently but very rarely modify my .psqlrc, so > seeing "timing is on" and similar messages echoed to the screen is > almost always noise. Yea, that was really my point --- our current behavior doesn't match the way most Unix tools behave when executing startup files. -- Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> http://momjian.us EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. +
Neil Conway wrote: > There is some precedent for not emitting the messages: most Unix tools > don't echo the results of applying their .rc files at startup. Unix shells do echo the output generated by the startup files. It's just that most Unix tools don't generate that much output.
Gregory Stark wrote: > "Bruce Momjian" <bruce@momjian.us> writes: > > > In my .psqlrc I have: > > > > \pset format wrapped > > > > and this outputs this on psql startup: > > > > $ psql test > > --> Output format is wrapped. > > psql (8.4devel) > > Type "help" for help. > > > > Is this desirable? \set QUIET at the top of .psqlrc fixes it, but I am > > wondering if we should be automatically doing quiet while .psqlrc is > > processed. > > I was wondering about this myself, but I'm still not used to the new banner. > It seems kind of... curt. Perhaps it should just be a single line instead of > two lines both around 20 characters... > > Anyways the thing that struck me as odd was the messages appearing *before* > the header. It seems to me the header should print followed by .psqlrc output > followed by normal output. Do you like this better? $ psql test psql (8.4devel) Type "help" for help. Output format is wrapped. test=> The attached patch accomplishes this. -- Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> http://momjian.us EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. + Index: src/bin/psql/startup.c =================================================================== RCS file: /cvsroot/pgsql/src/bin/psql/startup.c,v retrieving revision 1.149 diff -c -c -r1.149 startup.c *** src/bin/psql/startup.c 1 Jul 2008 00:08:18 -0000 1.149 --- src/bin/psql/startup.c 17 Jul 2008 00:44:22 -0000 *************** *** 281,292 **** */ else { if (!options.no_psqlrc) process_psqlrc(argv[0]); ! ! connection_warnings(); if (!pset.quiet && !pset.notty) ! printf(_("Type \"help\" for help.\n\n")); if (!pset.notty) initializeInput(options.no_readline ? 0 : 1); if (options.action_string) /* -f - was used */ --- 281,294 ---- */ else { + connection_warnings(); + if (!pset.quiet && !pset.notty) + printf(_("Type \"help\" for help.\n")); if (!options.no_psqlrc) process_psqlrc(argv[0]); ! /* output newline here because .psqlrc might output something */ if (!pset.quiet && !pset.notty) ! printf("\n"); if (!pset.notty) initializeInput(options.no_readline ? 0 : 1); if (options.action_string) /* -f - was used */
Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > $ psql test > > > --> Output format is wrapped. > > > psql (8.4devel) > > > Type "help" for help. > > > > > > Is this desirable? \set QUIET at the top of .psqlrc fixes it, but I am > > > wondering if we should be automatically doing quiet while .psqlrc is > > > processed. > > > > I was wondering about this myself, but I'm still not used to the new banner. > > It seems kind of... curt. Perhaps it should just be a single line instead of > > two lines both around 20 characters... > > > > Anyways the thing that struck me as odd was the messages appearing *before* > > the header. It seems to me the header should print followed by .psqlrc output > > followed by normal output. > > Do you like this better? > > $ psql test > psql (8.4devel) > Type "help" for help. > Output format is wrapped. > > test=> > > The attached patch accomplishes this. With no feedback, applied. ;-) -- Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> http://momjian.us EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. +
Am Thursday, 17. July 2008 schrieb Bruce Momjian: > > Anyways the thing that struck me as odd was the messages appearing > > *before* the header. It seems to me the header should print followed by > > .psqlrc output followed by normal output. > > Do you like this better? > > $ psql test > psql (8.4devel) > Type "help" for help. > Output format is wrapped. > > test=> > > The attached patch accomplishes this. The psqlrc file must be read before the welcome message is printed, so that you can disable the welcome message in the psqlrc file. Otherwise we are reopening the whole issue of when and whether to print a welcome message that we had just settled.
Peter Eisentraut wrote: > Am Thursday, 17. July 2008 schrieb Bruce Momjian: > > > > Anyways the thing that struck me as odd was the messages appearing > > > *before* the header. It seems to me the header should print followed by > > > .psqlrc output followed by normal output. > > > > Do you like this better? > > > > $ psql test > > psql (8.4devel) > > Type "help" for help. > > Output format is wrapped. > > > > test=> > > > > The attached patch accomplishes this. > > The psqlrc file must be read before the welcome message is printed, so that > you can disable the welcome message in the psqlrc file. Otherwise we are > reopening the whole issue of when and whether to print a welcome message that > we had just settled. Oh, yea, sorry. Reverted. -- Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> http://momjian.us EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. +