Thread: _bt_parent_deletion_safe() isn't safe
The btree page deletion logic has a restriction that it cannot delete the rightmost child page of any non-leaf btree page (see nbtree/README for explanations). This is checked by _bt_parent_deletion_safe(), which claims * Note: it's OK to release page locks after checking, because a safe* deletion can't become unsafe due to concurrent activity. A non-rightmost* page cannot become rightmost unless there's a concurrent page deletion,* but only VACUUM doespage deletion and we only allow one VACUUM on an index* at a time. An only child could acquire a sibling (of the sameparent) only* by being split ... but that would make it a non-rightmost child so the* deletion is still safe. This analysis missed a case, though. What if an insertion into some nearby leaf page causes a split, and the resulting insertion into the parent page causes it to split, and we choose a split point just after the downlink for the page that VACUUM is trying to delete? That will leave the deletion target as the rightmost child, and we're screwed. I realized this while thinking about Jeff Amiel's report here: http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-general/2010-06/msg00351.php I can't prove that this is what's causing his crashes, but it could produce the symptom he's reporting. And it'd also explain the observation that the crash doesn't recur when autovacuum tries again, since at that time it'll see the page as a rightmost child and not try to delete it. Maybe the reason he's seeing it repeatedly is that in his installation the deletions lag behind insertions at about the right rate for the problem case to occur. Right at the moment I'm not seeing a fix other than to have page deletion hold lock on the parent page till it's done. That's unpleasant from a concurrency standpoint. Anybody see a better way? regards, tom lane
I wrote: > I realized this while thinking about Jeff Amiel's report here: > http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-general/2010-06/msg00351.php > I can't prove that this is what's causing his crashes, but it could > produce the symptom he's reporting. Actually, no it can't: the case I'm envisioning should lead to throwing this error: elog(ERROR, "failed to delete rightmost child %u of block %u in index \"%s\"", target, parent, RelationGetRelationName(rel)); a bit further up. That's annoying enough, but it's not a PANIC. A search of the archives produces no evidence that anyone has ever reported the "failed to delete rightmost child" error from the field. So while I still think this is a bug that needs to be fixed, it may be lower priority than I thought initially. regards, tom lane
Tom Lane wrote: > I wrote: > > I realized this while thinking about Jeff Amiel's report here: > > http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-general/2010-06/msg00351.php > > I can't prove that this is what's causing his crashes, but it could > > produce the symptom he's reporting. > > Actually, no it can't: the case I'm envisioning should lead to throwing > this error: > > elog(ERROR, "failed to delete rightmost child %u of block %u in index \"%s\"", > target, parent, RelationGetRelationName(rel)); > > a bit further up. That's annoying enough, but it's not a PANIC. > > A search of the archives produces no evidence that anyone has ever > reported the "failed to delete rightmost child" error from the field. > So while I still think this is a bug that needs to be fixed, it may > be lower priority than I thought initially. Is this a TODO? -- Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> http://momjian.us EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com + None of us is going to be here forever. +
Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> writes: > Tom Lane wrote: >> A search of the archives produces no evidence that anyone has ever >> reported the "failed to delete rightmost child" error from the field. >> So while I still think this is a bug that needs to be fixed, it may >> be lower priority than I thought initially. > Is this a TODO? Possibly. I was planning to go back and study that code a bit more --- I have a feeling that there might be some kind of rare concurrency bug involved in btree page deletion. But I've been up to my rear in other alligators for the past several weeks. regards, tom lane
Excerpts from Tom Lane's message of vie jul 02 22:02:59 -0400 2010: > Possibly. I was planning to go back and study that code a bit more --- > I have a feeling that there might be some kind of rare concurrency bug > involved in btree page deletion. But I've been up to my rear in > other alligators for the past several weeks. Judging from the evidence I've seen, I'm fairly sure that there *is* a concurrency bug somewhere in that code.