Thread: Where info on new releases?
I just noticed a new version is available, but I can't find what is new. I have had this problem every time there is a new release. Where can I find this info? Why isn't there a link to what's new right on the page?
there is no new version available ... we haven't even gone beta yet :) On Mon, 15 Oct 2001, Francisco Reyes wrote: > I just noticed a new version is available, but I can't find what is new. > I have had this problem every time there is a new release. > > Where can I find this info? > Why isn't there a link to what's new right on the page? > > > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command > (send "unregister YourEmailAddressHere" to majordomo@postgresql.org) >
Mr. Reyes, > I just noticed a new version is available, but I can't find what is > new. > I have had this problem every time there is a new release. > > Where can I find this info? > Why isn't there a link to what's new right on the page? Whenever a new version is released, it gets posted to the news on the main page at http://www.postgresql.org/ (and mirrors). The "new release" you are talking about was released about 2 months ago, so it is no longer as new as some other news. If you're concerned about knowing immediately as things develop, I suggest that you subscribe to the pgsql-announce list, so that you will be sent e-mail when a new version releases, as well as any other major developments. Even better, how about becomeing involved in contributing to the project? If you were actively participating, you might come to know of new releases before they happen, and what's in them as well! Remember, this is Open Source -- not television. -Josh ______AGLIO DATABASE SOLUTIONS___________________________ Josh Berkus Complete information technology josh@agliodbs.com and data management solutions (415) 565-7293 for law firms, small businesses fax 621-2533 and non-profit organizations. San Francisco
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On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, Josh Berkus wrote: > If you're concerned about knowing immediately as things develop, Actually I am not trying to get the latest release (which is what I saw, not version). Basically I follow PostgreSQL through the FreeBSD ports. When the port maintainer updates it I then go to the postgreSQL site and try to find what is new. > Even better, how about becomeing involved in contributing to the > project? I am a firm believer in distribution of task. My current project with PostgreSQL is trying to convince my boss to use it. With the kind of money we pay for Hardware to run Oracle + License we could have hired someone full time to work on enhancing PostgreSQL. I have been working on my own time and staying extra hours to create a PostgreSQL setup with a supset of our data to be able to use it for certain reports and some data cleanup. My boss already told me he wanted to take a look at what I have so far. > Remember, this is Open Source -- not television. Yes. In TV one can easily convince one's boss to go with the right tool and not have people to go with Oracle "because it has large market share and they will be around". No mention of quality of product OR service. I just even saw an article last night of a couple of companies having serious issues with Oracle support and going to the extreme of not paying the support bills until things get fixed.
check the HISTORY file that is maintained for each release ... On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Francisco Reyes wrote: > On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > > > > there is no new version available ... we haven't even gone beta yet :) > > > > > > > > On Mon, 15 Oct 2001, Francisco Reyes wrote: > > > > > I just noticed a new version is available, but I can't find what is new. > > > I have had this problem every time there is a new release. > > > > > > Where can I find this info? > > > Why isn't there a link to what's new right on the page? > > I meant new "release". > How do I find what is new on this release? > >
On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > there is no new version available ... we haven't even gone beta yet :) > > > > On Mon, 15 Oct 2001, Francisco Reyes wrote: > > > I just noticed a new version is available, but I can't find what is new. > > I have had this problem every time there is a new release. > > > > Where can I find this info? > > Why isn't there a link to what's new right on the page? I meant new "release". How do I find what is new on this release?
Mr. Reyes,
> Actually I am not trying to get the latest release (which is what I
> saw,
> not version). Basically I follow PostgreSQL through the FreeBSD
> ports.
> When the port maintainer updates it I then go to the postgreSQL site
> and
> try to find what is new.
Well, try joining pgsql-announce. It's a fairly easy way to keep up to
date.
> I am a firm believer in distribution of task. My current project with
> PostgreSQL is trying to convince my boss to use it. With the kind of
> money
> we pay for Hardware to run Oracle + License we could have hired
> someone
> full time to work on enhancing PostgreSQL.
Good luck. Great Bridge used to have this terrific presentation about
who is using Postgres for this kind of presentation. The only one I
remember from this was the Federal Aviation Administration Weather
Service. But there were more ... unfortunately, two I can't talk about
due to NDA's. Dammit! One company has an online scheduling program
with 50,000 users on Postgres, and the other is running a case inquiry
system for 100 attornies.
Also point out to your boss that both Oracle and Informix are based on
older versions of Postgres.
> Yes. In TV one can easily convince one's boss to go with the right
> tool
> and not have people to go with Oracle "because it has large market
> share
> and they will be around".
You could also point out to your boss that PostgreSQL has been around
and under development for 20 years, making it more durable than Oracle.
Further, you can point out that Oracle is tied to one company, whereas
with PostgreSQL you can hire whomever you want to service it.
However, if your boss is a trade magazine addict, he may not be
interested in arguments. I'm reminded of the caption to a Dilbert
cartoon:
Boss: "Dilbert, we need a SQL server database."
Dilbert thinks: "Hmmm, does he know what he's talking about, or did he
see this in a trade magazine?"
Dilbert asks: "What color should that SQL server be, boss?"
Boss: "Blue."
Dilbert: "I'll get right on it."
Frankly, I live for the day a client tells me they want Oracle, I
install Postgres and pocket the Oracle license fee. Not today, though.
-Josh
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Josh Berkus wrote: > Mr. Reyes, > > > Actually I am not trying to get the latest release (which is what I > > saw, > > not version). Basically I follow PostgreSQL through the FreeBSD > > ports. > > When the port maintainer updates it I then go to the postgreSQL site > > and > > try to find what is new. > > Well, try joining pgsql-announce. It's a fairly easy way to keep up to > date. > > > I am a firm believer in distribution of task. My current project with > > PostgreSQL is trying to convince my boss to use it. With the kind of > > money > > we pay for Hardware to run Oracle + License we could have hired > > someone > > full time to work on enhancing PostgreSQL. > > Good luck. Great Bridge used to have this terrific presentation about > who is using Postgres for this kind of presentation. The only one I > remember from this was the Federal Aviation Administration Weather > Service. But there were more ... unfortunately, two I can't talk about > due to NDA's. Dammit! One company has an online scheduling program > with 50,000 users on Postgres, and the other is running a case inquiry > system for 100 attornies. > > Also point out to your boss that both Oracle and Informix are based on > older versions of Postgres. > > > Yes. In TV one can easily convince one's boss to go with the right > > tool > > and not have people to go with Oracle "because it has large market > > share > > and they will be around". > > You could also point out to your boss that PostgreSQL has been around > and under development for 20 years, making it more durable than Oracle. > Further, you can point out that Oracle is tied to one company, whereas > with PostgreSQL you can hire whomever you want to service it. > > However, if your boss is a trade magazine addict, he may not be > interested in arguments. I'm reminded of the caption to a Dilbert > cartoon: > > Boss: "Dilbert, we need a SQL server database." > Dilbert thinks: "Hmmm, does he know what he's talking about, or did he > see this in a trade magazine?" > Dilbert asks: "What color should that SQL server be, boss?" > Boss: "Blue." > Dilbert: "I'll get right on it." > > Frankly, I live for the day a client tells me they want Oracle, I > install Postgres and pocket the Oracle license fee. Not today, though. > > -Josh > > ______AGLIO DATABASE SOLUTIONS___________________________ > Josh Berkus > Complete information technology josh@agliodbs.com > and data management solutions (415) 565-7293 > for law firms, small businesses fax 621-2533 > and non-profit organizations. San Francisco > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Name: > Type: Plain Text (text/plain) > Encoding: base64 > > Name: > Type: Plain Text (text/plain) > Encoding: base64 > > Name: > Type: Plain Text (text/plain) > Encoding: base64 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster