Thread: [renee.deger@enterprisedb.com: [ANNOUNCE] EnterpriseDB Announces Improved Database Integration, Scalability and Data Analytics Productivity with Newly Released PostgreSQL 9.5]

----- Forwarded message from Renee Deger <renee.deger@enterprisedb.com> -----

> Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 08:30:12 -0800
> From: Renee Deger <renee.deger@enterprisedb.com>
> To: pgsql-announce@postgresql.org
> Subject: [ANNOUNCE] EnterpriseDB Announces Improved Database Integration, Scalability and Data Analytics Productivity
withNewly Released PostgreSQL 9.5
 
> 
> *Performs 96% faster than v9.4 in benchmark tests*
> 
> *Bedford, Mass. – Jan. 7, 2016* – EnterpriseDB <http://www.enterprisedb.com>®
> (EDB™), the leading enterprise Postgres database company, today announced
> the general availability of PostgreSQL 9.5, released by the Postgres
> community. The new 9.5 version boosts performance and scalability, enhances
> productivity with data analytics, and improves integration with other
> database solutions, laying the groundwork for supporting horizontal scaling
> across multiple servers.

----- End forwarded message -----

This does not look kosher.

I see a separate announcement for 9.5 from PGDG, which is well and
good, but this one just seems to privilege one of the PostgreSQL
companies over others that contributed significantly to PostgreSQL
9.5.

I don't see 2ndQuadrant, PostgresPro, etc., each making their own
announcements, nor would it be appropriate for them to do so.  I don't
see anything specific to EnterpriseDB in the sense of a separate
product announcement for Advanced Server, for example.

Do we have a policy on this?  Should we?

Cheers,
David.
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On 01/08/2016 08:49 AM, David Fetter wrote:

> This does not look kosher.
>
> I see a separate announcement for 9.5 from PGDG, which is well and
> good, but this one just seems to privilege one of the PostgreSQL
> companies over others that contributed significantly to PostgreSQL
> 9.5.
>
> I don't see 2ndQuadrant, PostgresPro, etc., each making their own
> announcements, nor would it be appropriate for them to do so.  I don't
> see anything specific to EnterpriseDB in the sense of a separate
> product announcement for Advanced Server, for example.
>
> Do we have a policy on this?  Should we?

The wording is a "little" hokey but it does explicitly state:

"released by the Postgres community"

On the one hand it does continue their Machiavellian pursuit of making 
all things PostgreSQL about EDB.

On the other, there are far more enterprises that are going to read a 
release about PostgreSQL from EDB than PGDG.

I am unsure if the net profit for the community is a plus or minus on 
this one. I am sure that any policy we have on the matter would be 
ignored by EDB marketing, which is their right really.

Sincerely,

JD


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David,

* David Fetter (david@fetter.org) wrote:
> This does not look kosher.

It wasn't.

> Do we have a policy on this?  Should we?

There is a -announce policy and this post shouldn't have been approved
under it.  The initial impression of the email was that it was some new
product announcement, not that it was an announcement of PGDG's release
of 9.5.

We're going to be much more careful in the future and we've notified
Renee that the email didn't follow policy and was approved by mistake,
and asked that she not send similar announcements again.

Unfortunately, we can't really take it back.

Thanks!

Stephen