Thread: Pg_dump
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Will pg_dump cause blocking queries? If so how to take dump without blocking?
Am 07.12.23 um 19:11 schrieb Rajesh Kumar: > Hi > > Will pg_dump cause blocking queries? If so how to take dump without > blocking? Readers don't block writers, writers don't block readers in PostgreSQL. pg_dump is a reader. -- Holger Jakobs, Bergisch Gladbach, Tel. +49-178-9759012
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> Readers don't block writers, writers don't block readers in PostgreSQL. > > pg_dump is a reader. > > -- > Holger Jakobs, Bergisch Gladbach, Tel. +49-178-9759012 Additionally, I've done some stress testing and found that pg_dump puts surprisingly low load on our dbs. Of course, likeeverything else, this dependent on your specifics--after all the dump will require reading all rows, so for instanceif you're disk-bound, you could see a performance hit. But generally, if your db is running in a reasonably "healthy"performance range and not already close to limits, pg_dump won't have a performance impact visible to users.
That happens to me too the last time I took dump
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> Readers don't block writers, writers don't block readers in PostgreSQL.
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> pg_dump is a reader.
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> --
> Holger Jakobs, Bergisch Gladbach, Tel. +49-178-9759012
Additionally, I've done some stress testing and found that pg_dump puts surprisingly low load on our dbs. Of course, like everything else, this dependent on your specifics--after all the dump will require reading all rows, so for instance if you're disk-bound, you could see a performance hit. But generally, if your db is running in a reasonably "healthy" performance range and not already close to limits, pg_dump won't have a performance impact visible to users.
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> pg_dump is a reader.
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> --
> Holger Jakobs, Bergisch Gladbach, Tel. +49-178-9759012
Additionally, I've done some stress testing and found that pg_dump puts surprisingly low load on our dbs. Of course, like everything else, this dependent on your specifics--after all the dump will require reading all rows, so for instance if you're disk-bound, you could see a performance hit. But generally, if your db is running in a reasonably "healthy" performance range and not already close to limits, pg_dump won't have a performance impact visible to users.
Holger Jakobs <holger@jakobs.com> writes: > Am 07.12.23 um 19:11 schrieb Rajesh Kumar: >> Will pg_dump cause blocking queries? If so how to take dump without >> blocking? > Readers don't block writers, writers don't block readers in PostgreSQL. > pg_dump is a reader. To enlarge on that a bit: pg_dump takes AccessShareLock on every table it intends to dump. This does not conflict with ordinary DML updates. It *will* conflict with anything that wants AccessExclusiveLock, which typically is schema-altering DDL. See https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/explicit-locking.html#LOCKING-TABLES So the answer to your question is "don't try to alter the database schema while pg_dump is running". You can alter database content freely, though. regards, tom lane
I agree with Tom. This is making the difference. I ran into this scenario several times in the past.
But whole database is becoming slow when the dump is happening .
Thanks,
Sarwar
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Subject: Re: Pg_dump
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Subject: Re: Pg_dump
Holger Jakobs <holger@jakobs.com> writes:
> Am 07.12.23 um 19:11 schrieb Rajesh Kumar:
>> Will pg_dump cause blocking queries? If so how to take dump without
>> blocking?
> Readers don't block writers, writers don't block readers in PostgreSQL.
> pg_dump is a reader.
To enlarge on that a bit: pg_dump takes AccessShareLock on every
table it intends to dump. This does not conflict with ordinary
DML updates. It *will* conflict with anything that wants
AccessExclusiveLock, which typically is schema-altering DDL.
See
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.postgresql.org%2Fdocs%2Fcurrent%2Fexplicit-locking.html%23LOCKING-TABLES&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cdcf516f1dede486a176608dbf755c798%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638375720015977401%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=m%2FLUxihtuaXHgYaoa%2FTGzs0qf4Z7ifc7JptfpV0SYdI%3D&reserved=0
So the answer to your question is "don't try to alter the
database schema while pg_dump is running". You can alter
database content freely, though.
regards, tom lane
> Am 07.12.23 um 19:11 schrieb Rajesh Kumar:
>> Will pg_dump cause blocking queries? If so how to take dump without
>> blocking?
> Readers don't block writers, writers don't block readers in PostgreSQL.
> pg_dump is a reader.
To enlarge on that a bit: pg_dump takes AccessShareLock on every
table it intends to dump. This does not conflict with ordinary
DML updates. It *will* conflict with anything that wants
AccessExclusiveLock, which typically is schema-altering DDL.
See
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.postgresql.org%2Fdocs%2Fcurrent%2Fexplicit-locking.html%23LOCKING-TABLES&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cdcf516f1dede486a176608dbf755c798%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638375720015977401%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=m%2FLUxihtuaXHgYaoa%2FTGzs0qf4Z7ifc7JptfpV0SYdI%3D&reserved=0
So the answer to your question is "don't try to alter the
database schema while pg_dump is running". You can alter
database content freely, though.
regards, tom lane
On 2023-Dec-07, M Sarwar wrote: > I agree with Tom. This is making the difference. I ran into this scenario several times in the past. > But whole database is becoming slow when the dump is happening . For large databases with very high rate of updates, a running pg_dump can prevent vacuum from removing old versions of rows. This can make the operations slower because of accumulation of bloat. For such situations, pg_dump is not really recommended. It's better to use a physical backup (say, pgbarman), or if you really need a pg_dump output file for some reason, create a replica (with _no_ hot_standby_feedback) and run pg_dump there. -- Álvaro Herrera PostgreSQL Developer — https://www.EnterpriseDB.com/ "I'm always right, but sometimes I'm more right than other times." (Linus Torvalds) https://lore.kernel.org/git/Pine.LNX.4.58.0504150753440.7211@ppc970.osdl.org/
Hi, a customer gets lots of ERROR: multixact "members" limit exceeded So they are running a vacuum now....but it seems that the error still persists even if the related table is already finish with vacuum. Is there any possiblilty that a vacuum run won't solve those errors. Thanks Dirk